for john boehner to put forward the boehner plan. not the dobbs plan. the boehner plan. >> bill: specifically say this is what we have to cut? >> this is what we have to do. we have to raise the retirement age in this country. for social security. we have to raise the retirement age for medicare. we have to get serious as they did in 1993 under a democratic president, president bill clinton and say this is the target. $500 billion a year in reduced deficit. and we're going to get there. >> bill: 500 billion a year you would reduce. >> absolutely. >> bill: i would double that i would do a trillion. >> you can't quite get there i think you can get. >> bill: what if i sold rhode island then i could probably get that. [ laughter ] >> bill: chinese would buy it? >> is chafee still going to be government after you sell it. >> bill: who cares. >> he is damaged goods after you took care of him last night. >> bill: i'm trying for a trillion dollars to cut the debt every year. not the deficit. the debt. i'm trying to get enough money in here so that we can go from 16 to 15 to 14, you see?